The IFF pension fund has existed for (over) 80 years! All these years, IFF employees have been building a good retirement provision together through the pension fund, and the pension fund also takes care of partners and children of IFF employees in the event of their death. We let two participants speak: Bert Lonterman (71) and Hakan Karabag (45). The former is retired and currently a board member, the latter is still working hard. How do they view the anniversary fund, on the eve of major changes in pension country? And what does the future of building pensions together look like?